Tomahawk Leader

We already give a free $1000 tax deduction to people that breed up a child either by accident or intention, why not give any citizen a free sterilization offer?. It would be cheaper for the taxpayers in the long run. Why subsidize the creation of the problem? - typical backward government tax program.

Baby: If you wrote a post that did not bounce around through 50 unrelated subjects, and was not so long that people passed out of fatigue by the end of it, and had a point to it, do you think anyone would object?

It would be interesting to compare the rate of conscientious objection with for the first two years of Vietnam with the first two years of the Bush war in Iraq (two years tomorrow). Then we had a large percent of conscripts versus the current situation of largely domestically hired mercenaries or vo...

The editor has picked only a small and uninfluencial group to create his fanciful image of environmentalists. He seems to promote a world of butt to bellybutton grid-locked traffic congestion, horizon to horizon noise and development, poisoned air and water, no naturally functioning ecosystems, no r...

That was my point in large part: that you can rely on your own abilities and interface in the world - or - you can pawn it off on a god and hope something happens. I vaguely remember another amusing anecdote like the above but it eludes me. It involved a sinking boat several people including a pries...

This is a good story for believers but I don't see it as an argument for the existence of god. One could easily re-write the story so that the the man with long hair cuts it himself thus proving that people have no need to "go to Him and look for Him."

Dopey: How is the new governor coming? I often find it amusing that the party the talks the most about reducing the role of government in people's lifes is the one most ardent about increasing the government's role in people's decisions on reproduction, marriage, free speech, what they can read, etc...

The other day I heard this version of how christianity got started: ********************************************* God is tired, worn out. So he speaks to St. Peter, "I need a vacation. Got any suggestions where I should go?" Thinking, St. Peter nods his head and replies, "How about Ju...

Originally posted by baby: ...(not just referencing fornication, but also to avoid what he claimed was the tendency of female widows: to run around spreading gossip from house to house). Historically, I don't quite see where marriage would or has prevented this. It seems to be almost hardwired: gos...

A well delivered sermon Aphephilia. Maybe you could get your own church.

I will dwell on this a day or two and maybe by then Baby will have analyzed this thread and delivered some comprehensive exegesis.

I don't know that they would refer to their version of a god as master but it would still be undesirable to be a targeted as just another "notch" for them to work their way to their heaven. Before someone starts to save me I think it is their burden to prove that there is something to be s...

Originally posted by baby: ... And He commanded us to "make disciples of all nations." Preaching Christians are only obeying what their Master commanded, and not out of fear or hating the Master, but out of gratitude for their salvation and if we honestly love our neighbors, we would also...

"My religion consists of a humble admiration of the illimitable superior spirit who reveals himself in the slight details we are able to perceive with our frail and feeble minds. That deeply emotional convictin of the presence of a superior reasoning power, which is revealed in the incomprehens...

In many religions god is known as the one. So "E Pluribus Unum - Out of Many, One" would be the converse. For example if you were one of the non scientific community and believed in a god that created the many facets of reality it would be more accurately "E Unum Pluribus - Out of One...

But without her your lives would be incomplete as you would have nothing to complain about. That one about major metro areas did catch my eye as I remember baby from the now defunct gannet (Wausau Paper) forum or some such and her residence as Marshfield. She was equally comprehensive in her anecdot...

Yes, it would have at least been put out by National Enquirer and the headlines would have been straight from the superstitions of the european dark ages: "Devil's companions devour northwoods hunter"

Perhaps we should tax anyone with a child a $1000 dollars per year on their taxes instead of a tax deduction (and give it to the school system). This would probably be more effective than religious or environmental arguments.

Originally posted by baby: Besides, why should kids even have to need Planned Parenthood before 16. Studies continue to show that puberty is occurring at an increasingly earlier age in children. http://www.keepkidshealthy.com/adolescent/puberty.html Some attribute this to simply evolution, some to ...

Bush has piddled away 273 million of the taxpayer's money on his so-called abstinence program. Every society from the beginnings of history have told their children not to do it. They all failed in that endeavor because they overlooked human nature. Organizations like Family Planning and Planned Par...