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GOP U.S. Senator Johanns intros measure to stop EPA flyovers

Posted: Sat Jun 16, 2012 8:23 pm
by Zenith
Apparently operating on the theory that if the public doesn't know that pollution is out there, it won't hurt them.
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OMAHA, Neb. -
U.S. Sen. Mike Johanns has introduced a measure to stop the federal Environmental Protection Agency's aerial surveillance of agriculture operations, which have taken place in Nebraska and neighboring states.
Johanns, a Nebraska Republican, said he introduced the measure as an amendment to the federal farm bill after the EPA failed to provide comprehensive answers about the program's use.

Johanns said farmers and rancher don't trust the EPA's surveillance flights over their farm operations.

The EPA has defended the 10-year practice as a cost-effective way for the agency to monitor animal feedlots that may be polluting water.

Read more: http://www.ketv.com/news/local-news/Joh ... z1y0cpxWKO

Re: GOP U.S. Senator Johanns intros measure to stop EPA flyo

Posted: Sun Jun 17, 2012 12:26 am
by kmartell
Drone aerial surveillance over US agriculture. Sounds very creepy to me. "to monitor animal feedlots that may be polluting water."...sounds lame....there's got to be another way!!!

Can't hi-res satellite provide the same info? How about the EPA guy doing spot checks?

Just another example of the camel getting its nose under the tent. Where next? Where will it stop? That's the scary part of this!!! Kind of like that TV show Person Of Interest !!! :shock:

Re: GOP U.S. Senator Johanns intros measure to stop EPA flyo

Posted: Sun Jun 17, 2012 7:45 pm
by Zenith
kmartell wrote:Drone aerial surveillance over US agriculture. Sounds very creepy to me. "to monitor animal feedlots that may be polluting water."...sounds lame....there's got to be another way!!!

Can't hi-res satellite provide the same info? How about the EPA guy doing spot checks?

Just another example of the camel getting its nose under the tent. Where next? Where will it stop? That's the scary part of this!!! Kind of like that TV show Person Of Interest !!! :shock:


No Drones involved although that might save even more money for taxpayers and give a better means of law enforcement. EPA already does ground checks. What do you think you can see from the ground when looking in from the edge of a 15,000 acre ranch?

Re: GOP U.S. Senator Johanns intros measure to stop EPA flyo

Posted: Mon Jun 18, 2012 6:33 am
by tooten
Amazing, they can monitor a cow taking a crap in Nebraska but can't seem to catch the millions of illegals crossing the Mexican boarder.

Re: GOP U.S. Senator Johanns intros measure to stop EPA flyo

Posted: Mon Jun 18, 2012 11:10 am
by kmartell
For some reason I had drones on my mind when reading the post...mia copa.

Drones...still creepy but small airplane fly overs might be more acceptable to me...have to think about it. Hard to explain why the difference in my feelings between the two though....maybe the drones bring up some deep seated "Orwellian" feeling or concept. Drones...clones.. :evil:

But to answer your question....
Zenith wrote:What do you think you can see from the ground when looking in from the edge of a 15,000 acre ranch?

If the ranch had enough cattle and/or is owned by a politician...large piles of bull**** !!! :lol:

Re: GOP U.S. Senator Johanns intros measure to stop EPA flyo

Posted: Mon Jun 18, 2012 12:14 pm
by XYZ1
http://thumbpress.com/industrial-scars- ... -industry/

Some cool imagery showing pollution as seen from above...

Re: GOP U.S. Senator Johanns intros measure to stop EPA flyo

Posted: Mon Jun 18, 2012 2:02 pm
by kmartell
XYZ1...thanks for the link. The pictures are color enhanced to rightly emphasize examples of the pollution. I believe that companies that cause this disgrace should be HEAVILY fined and made to stop doing it and made to clean up their mess. There's no denying that this sort of stuff takes place.

I'm not a big fan of the EPA. Over the years I've read stories where they make it virtually impossible for small businesses to survive and it seems that now days EVERYTHING needs an EPA impact report as part of the cost of doing business. And I've read stories where they have done good.

I think that the idea of the EPA is good but I wish I could trust it rather than think of it as being another very large arm of the government with too much power.