GOP U.S. Senator Johanns intros measure to stop EPA flyovers

Forum for General Topics not covered by other areas.
Zenith
Occasional Poster
Occasional Poster
Posts: 15
Joined: Sat Oct 15, 2011 8:30 pm
Tie to Tomahawk: employment
Spambot: No

GOP U.S. Senator Johanns intros measure to stop EPA flyovers

Postby Zenith » Sat Jun 16, 2012 8:23 pm

Apparently operating on the theory that if the public doesn't know that pollution is out there, it won't hurt them.
* * *
OMAHA, Neb. -
U.S. Sen. Mike Johanns has introduced a measure to stop the federal Environmental Protection Agency's aerial surveillance of agriculture operations, which have taken place in Nebraska and neighboring states.
Johanns, a Nebraska Republican, said he introduced the measure as an amendment to the federal farm bill after the EPA failed to provide comprehensive answers about the program's use.

Johanns said farmers and rancher don't trust the EPA's surveillance flights over their farm operations.

The EPA has defended the 10-year practice as a cost-effective way for the agency to monitor animal feedlots that may be polluting water.

Read more: http://www.ketv.com/news/local-news/Joh ... z1y0cpxWKO

User avatar
kmartell
Contributor
Contributor
Posts: 283
Joined: Fri Feb 27, 2004 2:01 am
Tie to Tomahawk: Grew up in Tomahawk in the 50s and early 60s, left after High School in '64
Location: Mountain View, CA
Contact:

Re: GOP U.S. Senator Johanns intros measure to stop EPA flyo

Postby kmartell » Sun Jun 17, 2012 12:26 am

Drone aerial surveillance over US agriculture. Sounds very creepy to me. "to monitor animal feedlots that may be polluting water."...sounds lame....there's got to be another way!!!

Can't hi-res satellite provide the same info? How about the EPA guy doing spot checks?

Just another example of the camel getting its nose under the tent. Where next? Where will it stop? That's the scary part of this!!! Kind of like that TV show Person Of Interest !!! :shock:
Ken Martell
kenmartell@gmail.com
Thankful to be alive and healthy. Proud to call Tomahawk my hometown.

Zenith
Occasional Poster
Occasional Poster
Posts: 15
Joined: Sat Oct 15, 2011 8:30 pm
Tie to Tomahawk: employment
Spambot: No

Re: GOP U.S. Senator Johanns intros measure to stop EPA flyo

Postby Zenith » Sun Jun 17, 2012 7:45 pm

kmartell wrote:Drone aerial surveillance over US agriculture. Sounds very creepy to me. "to monitor animal feedlots that may be polluting water."...sounds lame....there's got to be another way!!!

Can't hi-res satellite provide the same info? How about the EPA guy doing spot checks?

Just another example of the camel getting its nose under the tent. Where next? Where will it stop? That's the scary part of this!!! Kind of like that TV show Person Of Interest !!! :shock:


No Drones involved although that might save even more money for taxpayers and give a better means of law enforcement. EPA already does ground checks. What do you think you can see from the ground when looking in from the edge of a 15,000 acre ranch?

tooten
Contributor
Contributor
Posts: 134
Joined: Thu Sep 20, 2007 1:01 am

Re: GOP U.S. Senator Johanns intros measure to stop EPA flyo

Postby tooten » Mon Jun 18, 2012 6:33 am

Amazing, they can monitor a cow taking a crap in Nebraska but can't seem to catch the millions of illegals crossing the Mexican boarder.

User avatar
kmartell
Contributor
Contributor
Posts: 283
Joined: Fri Feb 27, 2004 2:01 am
Tie to Tomahawk: Grew up in Tomahawk in the 50s and early 60s, left after High School in '64
Location: Mountain View, CA
Contact:

Re: GOP U.S. Senator Johanns intros measure to stop EPA flyo

Postby kmartell » Mon Jun 18, 2012 11:10 am

For some reason I had drones on my mind when reading the post...mia copa.

Drones...still creepy but small airplane fly overs might be more acceptable to me...have to think about it. Hard to explain why the difference in my feelings between the two though....maybe the drones bring up some deep seated "Orwellian" feeling or concept. Drones...clones.. :evil:

But to answer your question....
Zenith wrote:What do you think you can see from the ground when looking in from the edge of a 15,000 acre ranch?

If the ranch had enough cattle and/or is owned by a politician...large piles of bull**** !!! :lol:
Ken Martell
kenmartell@gmail.com
Thankful to be alive and healthy. Proud to call Tomahawk my hometown.

XYZ1
Contributor
Contributor
Posts: 115
Joined: Fri Feb 18, 2011 12:34 pm
Tie to Tomahawk: Born and raised in Tomahawk.
Spambot: No

Re: GOP U.S. Senator Johanns intros measure to stop EPA flyo

Postby XYZ1 » Mon Jun 18, 2012 12:14 pm

http://thumbpress.com/industrial-scars- ... -industry/

Some cool imagery showing pollution as seen from above...

User avatar
kmartell
Contributor
Contributor
Posts: 283
Joined: Fri Feb 27, 2004 2:01 am
Tie to Tomahawk: Grew up in Tomahawk in the 50s and early 60s, left after High School in '64
Location: Mountain View, CA
Contact:

Re: GOP U.S. Senator Johanns intros measure to stop EPA flyo

Postby kmartell » Mon Jun 18, 2012 2:02 pm

XYZ1...thanks for the link. The pictures are color enhanced to rightly emphasize examples of the pollution. I believe that companies that cause this disgrace should be HEAVILY fined and made to stop doing it and made to clean up their mess. There's no denying that this sort of stuff takes place.

I'm not a big fan of the EPA. Over the years I've read stories where they make it virtually impossible for small businesses to survive and it seems that now days EVERYTHING needs an EPA impact report as part of the cost of doing business. And I've read stories where they have done good.

I think that the idea of the EPA is good but I wish I could trust it rather than think of it as being another very large arm of the government with too much power.
Ken Martell
kenmartell@gmail.com
Thankful to be alive and healthy. Proud to call Tomahawk my hometown.


Return to “General Discussion”

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: TurnitinBot [Bot] and 4 guests

cron