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Harley Ride

Postby stricka » Wed Sep 22, 2004 9:13 pm

Here we are nearly a week after the biggest and best Colorama weekend ever, and there is no discussion about it on this site. Mr. Kottah would be ashamed. What were everyone's thoughts about this years event?

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Re: Harley Ride

Postby nugget » Thu Sep 23, 2004 5:31 am

It was great! On this board "no news is good news." The reason there were no posts (in my opinion)is for the most part this is a negative board. If there is nothing to whine or complain about then the posts are very few.
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Re: Harley Ride

Postby JayOMF » Thu Sep 23, 2004 8:14 am

I was impressed by this weekend. I have not yet heard any reports of any major troubles, seems like it was just an extraordinary weekend with great weather and a goodtime had by most (unless you tried to drive...thats another story. of course we're used to that)
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Re: Harley Ride

Postby Louie_60 » Thu Sep 23, 2004 10:24 am

Stricka Mr. Kottah has not been on this board for some time now dont ya think its time to forget about him :roll: ?

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Re: Harley Ride

Postby KEN » Thu Sep 23, 2004 5:38 pm

ODDS BODKINS! Forget Mr. Kottah! Not likely.

I`m glad to hear the Fall Ride went well. BUT,
How big do you think Tomahawk can let the Ride become?

Last year it was 30,000 , this year 40,000.

Could the Tomahawk area handle 60,000 or 70,000?

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Re: Harley Ride

Postby nugget » Fri Sep 24, 2004 5:04 am

Yes, they can hamdle it.
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Re: Harley Ride

Postby aphephilia » Fri Sep 24, 2004 8:04 am

How many people were killed this yr?

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Re: Harley Ride

Postby Old Scout » Fri Sep 24, 2004 8:30 am

Hate to disappoint you, but there were none killed and no serious accidents. :D
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Re: Harley Ride

Postby Merse » Fri Sep 24, 2004 12:32 pm

Oh, I hope not 'disappointed' !!

To the question of how big, can we handle it: I think the City can, but not sure if the Citizens can!

I take part in the Ride & look forward to it all year. But. I won't drive my car in town that weekend. Really wish there was a better way to address the traffic concerns.

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Re: Harley Ride

Postby djp » Fri Sep 24, 2004 7:45 pm

just want to say thanks for the great weekend you guys put on. we've been coming up on thursday for about five years and after going to sturgis for the first time this year they could take lessons from tomahawk. It's nice to feel welcomed and that your business is appreciated that is not the case in sturgis. I think the weather will always be the limiting factor for the number of people but as it grows (and it will) it will just move out so other towns will be more involved. The best thing I saw was a sign from the police chief that said they would be very tolerant but blatant disregard of safety would not be tolerated. perfect thats the way it should be. I know the people that live up there and do not benifit finacially don't get thanked too often for putting up with us but I've heard it time and again how this is the best weekend of the year. So I just want to say thanks again and that there are alot of riders that really appreciate you having us take over the area for the weekend.

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Re: Harley Ride

Postby BEEPERLADY » Mon Sep 27, 2004 5:40 pm

Sorry it took me so long to sign on the message board this year. My son got married on the 25th so I was a little buzy!!
Again, THANK YOU!!! to all the citizens of Tomahawk and surrounding areas. What another beautiful weekend. We have been coming up on Thursday for eleven years. The last ten have been in the wonderful company of Vicky and Taylor Johnson on Lake Nokomis Rd. They have been welcoming us into their home that long!! A great friendship has evolved from Colorama.
This year, we escorted Taylor to kindergargen on Chuck and Sarah's 1984 bagger surrounded by five other bikes from our group. Taylor was in heaven. As we arrived at school we noticed that many other children got the same Harley treatment. What a memory.
The Johnson home was a GAS this year!! Fun was had by all with hot tubing, riding and just remembering all the great times we have had together and the new memories from this year. Vicky has started a Colorama wall in her two stall garage where she lets us park our bike for the weekend. We will be going through all of our pictures and sending them to her to hang.
Well enough is enough. I will let someone else post.
Thank you again Tomahawk for all your hospitality. See you next year. Sarah Wirtz. Oconto Falls, Wi

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Re: Harley Ride

Postby Fushia » Sun Oct 03, 2004 10:31 pm

The "ride" only benefits the merchants of our town. The riders don't pay enough to come thru
our town. It disturbs the whole town, including
the older people that need to drive thru town
and can't because of so many riders. They are forced to stay out of town until these riders leave. We have had friends come up to the ride and there is no membership fee, sticker that they
have to pay. They only pay their fees for their
fun! I've stated before I think they should all
pay a set fee and more money would be raised for the purpose of the event and not just for their fun activities. I know some of you think there is a trickle down effect. The whole purpose is for MDA and there should be a payment from each rider/passenger to put towards the fund raiser, which just doesn't happen. The citizens are forced to stay out of town if they don't have a motorcycle. Too hard to get through town and do a thing ...have to shop early..or go elsewhere...
It is all geared to the merchants who make the $$$$ and no, they don't really care what the rest
of the people think that don't earn the $$$$ for the event. It is getting bigger each year and we leave town now.

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Re: Harley Ride

Postby nugget » Mon Oct 04, 2004 5:00 am

There, finally, I have been waiting for the whiners to start. That is it? Traffic? 30,000+ extra people in town and surrounding area and traffic is the only whine? GOOD for TOMAHAWK! Have you ever tried to drive through this town before most of the snow birds leave for the south? How about about 3:30p.m. after school lets out? One more, how about after the mill changes shifts? My point is, yes we have some traffic issues in this wonderful little town, but they are being addressed as funds are found. Also even on a bad day traffic is never so bad it takes more then 10 min to get from one end of town to the other. Here is an idea, :D maybe volenteer and help fix the problem. That is another way the town wins, there are hundreds of volenteers from Tomahawk and surronding area that give time, the pay is great, you get a great feeling inside!
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Re: Harley Ride

Postby Kerry Tobin » Mon Oct 04, 2004 6:55 pm

Fushia,

That is a pretty one sided view. I drove to Tomahawk on Saturday, drove right through town (although I changed my typical route slightly). Stopped at a couple of stores to pick up things I needed (on 4th street), turned accross traffic and drove out Hwy CC without more than a couple minutes of delay.

Also, remember all those businesses that are making money are your neighbors, friends, etc...

There are probably things that could be done to make more money for MDA than just the raffle but you also have to figure out a way to enforce things like a fee (think you can track down 30-40,000 people that are spread out over the northwoods?), etc...

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Re: Harley Ride

Postby Themacs » Tue Oct 05, 2004 9:10 am

The "ride" only benefits the merchants of our town. The riders don't pay enough to come thru
our town.
Wow! 30,000+ people who spend money at all those local merchants...think of the local sales tax they pay that goes to TOMAHAWK!!!!

Uhm...hello?!?!?
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Re: Harley Ride

Postby Swish » Thu Oct 07, 2004 7:07 am

I have been, and will continue to be, confused on why people in the community refuse to support this event.

Part of Tomahawk's community makeup is that we're a tourism town. The Chamber considers tourism part of its program of work, and many businesses rely on visitors to continue to operate.

The Fall Ride is the biggest event of the year, and yet there is still a struggle to support the event.

Many businesses refuse to contribute to the costs that continue to increase each year. Residents and business owners do not seem to understand how the event benefits the community.

Some people who visit Tomahawk during the Fall Ride come back at other times of the year to vacation. While they are here for the Fall Ride, they shop, they eat and they purchase gas and groceries. That is only the beginning the of proven "trickle down" effect.

People who work that weekend use their hard-earned money to renovate their homes (carpeting, paint, furniture, decorations, etc.). Maybe they buy a new car. They take their family out to dinner on a quiet evening. They pay bills; visit the dentist.

Folks on the planning committee know that surrounding communities would jump at the chance to have the event moved - and yet many local people still refuse to accept the event.

Want to make the event better? Help on the planning committee. Be a part of the group that works to insure the event is fun, safe and a returning benefit for our community.

For more information on the Fall Ride Advisory Committee, contact the Chamber.

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Re: Harley Ride

Postby Jeff Boettcher » Fri Oct 08, 2004 11:38 pm

Fushia,
The natives know that Colorama weekend is a weekend to avoid town. I'm sure that groceries, prescriptions, general errands are done well before the Thursday of start of the event.

The presence of 40,000 participants is a financial
windfall for a town that relies on Harley, a paper mill, & tourists for an economy. The secondary spending by the owners & employees of the "profiteering" businesses boost the town's economy all year 'round.

Want to raise more for MDA? Start another fund raising booth of some sort for the charity. With 40,000 new folks in the area for the weekend, I'm sure more $$ could be raised.

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Re: Harley Ride

Postby Fushia » Sat Oct 09, 2004 12:22 am

Kerry:

Well, I think it should be treated like the DNR
deals with hunting!Example: DNR: They(hunters) have to buy licenses for all they do to raise money for the environment and fees etc. Maybe it should be taken up with the DMV. Also, to get in
to a state park you have to have a sticker to show to get in and park etc. This is a MAJOR event and what I"m trying to get across is that
MANY of these riders pay nothing for MDA. I think
that is sad that they come to town and pay nothing...yes, I know the merchants and others benefit as you say..but that isn't MDA. That is the point I'm making.

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Re: Harley Ride

Postby Kerry Tobin » Sat Oct 09, 2004 10:03 am

Fushia,

My point though is how do you enforce it? You would have to PAY people to stand at a road block at EVERY entrance into the city to watch for a sticker, etc... Even if you just did SARA park you have to figure out how to enforce it (pretty open area).

If it is really a concern the best bet would be what others have mentioned. Get some people together, figure out something you can sell and donate your profits... Heck, just help sell the raffle tickets (selling tickets for a Harley is really a good way to get money of out bikers!).

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Re: Harley Ride

Postby Deb Richardson » Sat Oct 16, 2004 2:37 pm

I'm always amazed at those that have never become part of the festivities of the Fall Ride. It seems that these folks find the most to critize. Not being a resident of Tomahawk any longer made the ride seem a million miles away and made us feel extremely homesick. Any type of function that brings people to town is a plus for everyone. Yes, the merchants benefit with the ringing of the cash registers, however those profits do trickle down to the local consumer in the form of keeping prices lower the remainder of the year.Don't forget the sales tax impact. If winter doesn't produce enough snowfall for the snowmobilers to come north everyone feels the pinch. Local merchants need to make ends meet by raising prices.

Maybe those that are most critical should go to the street dance and stroll the "main drag". These people are having a great time. Many of the local community leaders can be seen enjoying the music and the festivities. Contrary to the beliefs of some it's not a drunk fest or a boob flashing orgy. Also these people are not "biker trash" as believed by some. These people are business owners and community leaders from their home destinations.

During our time in Tomahawk we hosted bikers 5 different years. We planned accordingly and shopped early in the week, as do most locals. The reasoning that it's a hardship for the elderly in the community is not justifiable. I know many Senior Citizens in the Tomahawk vacinity and they all use the same common sense of getting to town early in the week.

Sorry that this post is so long afer the fact, I'm only recently back into the 21st century.I'm sure much to the dismay of some on this board. But it really is annoying that those that really haven't ever been part of the fun are the most critical of something they really don't know much about. It's great to be back on the board. We have missed Tomahawk each and everyday since May 31st.

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Re: Harley Ride

Postby Fushia » Sat Oct 16, 2004 2:46 pm

The point is:

It is supposed to be aimed at and funding for

MDA!!!!!!!!!!! Does anyone see that is the point
of the whole thing?

You go on and on about the type of people riding the Harleys??? I'm not concerned if they are having a good time on Main Street..That isn't the point. It is nice that they can enjoy themselves, but is there no guilt about some not paying/contributions to MDA? Deb, but if they are good business people. Where is the money? they are contributing....ummmm it
is going to the merchants???Is that where it goes??? What about MDA? sad....isn't it?

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Re: Harley Ride

Postby Old Scout » Sat Oct 16, 2004 4:11 pm

Only in your weee little mind ! :D
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Re: Harley Ride

Postby Deb Richardson » Sat Oct 16, 2004 9:02 pm

Thank you Old Scout. Contrary to Fushia's argument, the majority of the riders do contribute to the MDA cause while in Tomahawk. The raffle tickets for one are purchased by the majority of those attending. Actually they spend lots of money on those tickets to win the bike and to benefit MDA.

As Old Scout stated the non-profit organizations within the community benefit as well. The Optimist Club sells cheese curds all weekend. What do their profits benefit, the youth of the Tomahawk community. Now I know Fushia that your kids, as well as mine, have been involved in activities over the years that the Optimists have helped fund. Thank you bikers for purchasing cheese curds. The good Sisters of Sacred Heart salvage hundreds of pounds of aluminum cans each year, monies which are used to feed the hungry. I believe the Scouts may do the same. Feeding the hungry and funding youth programs, yup that sure is bad. With any function such as the Fall Ride there will always be monies spent that don't directly benefit the cause. Yet there are still benefits all around. Shoot, I don't think MDA has ever refused the donation from the Ride.

By the way Fushia, you're not concerned if those participating are having fun or not, what's wrong with fun? If the rideres are enjoying themselves they are more likely to spend more money, money that will benefit MDA. Hmmm, what a novel idea having fun for a good cause.

I guess what's really sad Fushia, is that I feel badly that you have a negative outlook on such a positive thing.

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Re: Harley Ride

Postby Fushia » Sat Oct 16, 2004 9:45 pm

I stated it is nice that they can enjoy themselves. I just know that many don't pay
towards MDA. So much money could be raised.

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Re: Harley Ride

Postby Jeff Boettcher » Sat Oct 16, 2004 11:31 pm

Deb & Scout,
She'll never get it.
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