KEN wrote: Walker has told us all he balanced the budget. He took the money from the poor and middle class, but he did say he balanced the budget.
KEN wrote: taking away the rights of the middle class
River Rat wrote:Ironicly, I would support bringing it back, but only if serious reform occured. If the politcal ties were truly severed, membership and dues were volintary, and the union's only focus was the worker, I think the issue would have much more support.
Kerry Tobin wrote:employees have to vote to unionize first
Kerry Tobin wrote:And last point. Stop saying it was filtering public money to to PACs. The moment that employee EARNED the money, it became theirs. Their money was diverted, not yours!!! No part of anything on my paycheck belongs to you or anyone else (other than the taxes). I find it offensive that you would even begin to consider it otherwise!
Kerry Tobin wrote:River Rat,
I don't think you're reading my response. If you get a job at a union private business, you are typically required to join the union. The union actually has a court backed ability to fine you for going against a union strike, etc.
You said the unions forced employees to join in Wisconsin public unions. I was simply pointing out that that was not an unusual situation and probably not any different than the paper mills or Harley.
Few municipalities and no Wisconsin school boards have civil service ordinances, said Andrew Phillips, a lawyer for the Wisconsin Counties Association.
Currently, unions often negotiate work rules in contracts that are specific to widely varied workplaces such as prisons, Department of Natural Resources offices and schools, while civil service rules are "one size fits all," said UW-Madison emeritus professor Dennis Dresang.
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