neup99 wrote:Obamacare does have good ideas within it, however nationalized healthcare is a bad idea. In the short term, yes some people will benefit. However, the VA system and Medicare are good examples of why the nationalized system is going to negatively implact the entire healthcare system. Decreased reimbursement rates will decline significantly and those who live in towns with small hospitals may well be the first to see cuts or closing of critical access hospitals.
Kerry Tobin wrote:Apparently some people still have no idea what is in the new Health Care Law. They didn't nationalize anything. One of it's biggest provisions is that people are finally REQUIRED to buy health insurance. Everyone uses health care sooner or later, I have no problem with requiring that people be able to pay for it.
River Rat wrote:How about smokers? Those who don't quit smoking will put an increased burden on the health care system and will therefore be responsible for increasing others insurance rates. Should the government impose a penalty....ahem a tax......on them? It's the exact same reason a tax was imposed on them for choosing not to buy health insurance.
How about drinkers?
The Cigarette tax is a tax paid by those who choose to pay it. It isn't mandatory that a person pays this tax. They can quit smoking a never pay a cent in taxes.
Kerry Tobin wrote:Apparently some people still have no idea what is in the new Health Care Law. They didn't nationalize anything.
Kerry Tobin wrote:And for the stop sign comment. You ripped into me for saying the law "required" people to buy insurance. I'm simply pointing out the law requires you to do something in the same way street laws do. You either do it, or you pay the fine (tax).
You are "required" to do both, and if you don't, you're going to pay the penalty (well, assuming you get caught).
Dutchman wrote:Now let's begin to eliminate some other problems in our society. Let us begin with the homeless; require everyone to own a home or rent an apartment othewise face a penalty tax.
Dutchman wrote:Our addiction to gas powered vehicles; solved by requiring every new vehicle being purchased to be fully electric or pay a penalty tax.
Kerry Tobin wrote:neup99,
The Fed already controls what they pay for Medicare so they aren't taking over anything. They are changing how they determine payment.
I find it interesting that the same group of people that demands teachers be paid based on results would be so offended that doctors face the same expectation... In both cases there are definitely situations whe
e the teacher/doctor has no control over the situation (they are dependent on the actions of others).
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