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 Post subject: Denial of Justice?
PostPosted: Tue Jun 19, 2007 7:55 am 
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Is hostility toward suspected pedophiles so severe that prosecutors exhibit excessive zeal and defense attorneys don't bother to defend their client? Will juries convict regardless of inconclusive evidence? For persons accused of sex offenses, is it guilty unless proven innocent beyond a reasonable doubt? If so, there is a systematic denial of justice for those charged.

URLS http://www.roanoke.com/news/roanoke/wb/116681
http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/dws/dn/latestnews/stories/011707dnmetwaller.314712f.html
http://abcnews.go.com/2020/print?id=2785054
http://www.members.shaw.ca/imaginarycrimes/berkshirecounty.htm
http://www.religioustolerance.org/ra_baran.htm
http://www.ncrj.org/Shanley/Index.html
http://www.tahlequahdailypress.com/editorials/local_story_347094942.html?keyword=topstory
http://www.currentargus.com/ci_4783650
http://www.nytimes.com/2006/12/19/us/19georgia.html
http://www.azstarnet.com/metro/161686
http://www.svherald.com/articles/2007/03/11/local_news/news4.prt
http://www.lasvegassun.com/sunbin/stories/text/2007/mar/21/032105056.html
http://www.pressconnects.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070407/NEWS01/704070327/1001
http://www.nypost.com/php/pfriendly/print.php?url=http://www.nypost.com/seven/03252007/news/regionalnews/cleared_janitor__branded__for_life_regionalnews_georgett_roberts.htm
http://www.fortwayne.com/mld/fortwayne/17350344.htm
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/hiddenlife/view/
and http://www.americanchronicle.com/articles/viewArticle.asp?articleID=28339

Accusing someone may seem like a good way to get revenge or an advantage of some kind. Be sure to read both of these news stories. http://www.ksl.com/index.php?sid=774539&nid=148 and
http://www.ksl.com/?nid=148&sid=1066376

Does it matter if MySpace incorrectly lists someone as a sex offender? Would it matter if it was you?
http://tech.blorge.com/Structure:%20/2007/05/26/myspace-falsely-labeled-a-woman-as-sex-offender/

No Place to Stand, No Place to Sit

And when they get out of prison, if they ever do, where can they live?

URL http://www.cnn.com/2007/LAW/04/05/bridge.sex.offenders/
http://www.local10.com/news/11346356/detail.html
http://www.local10.com/news/11826349/detail.html
http://www.storycounty.com/index.aspx?DN=456,23,6,1,Documents
http://www.tuscaloosanews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070529/NEWS/705290332/1010/NEWS05&template=printpicart
http://www.suntimes.com/news/metro/256244,CST-NWS-expriest14.article
http://www.dailytidings.com/2006/1101/stories/1101_sex_offender.php
http://www.tulsaworld.com/common/printerfriendlystory.aspx?articleID=070514_1_A1_RepRa00037
http://www.nytimes.com/2006/12/30/opinion/30sat1.html
http://news.bostonherald.com/national/northeast/view.bg?articleid=191386&format=text
http://www.law.com/jsp/law/LawArticleFriendly.jsp?id=1173863019427
http://www.roanoke.com/editorials/wb/wb/xp-113097
http://www.decaturdaily.com/decaturdaily/news/070323/act.shtml
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/02/17/nyregion/17sex.html
http://www.palmbeachpost.com/pbcwest/content/local_news/epaper/2007/05/19/s1a_sexoffend_0519.html
http://www.longislandpress.com/?cp=162&show=article&a_id=11497
http://www.kimatv.com/news/local/6094846.html
http://www.cnn.com/video/player/player.html?url=/video/us/2007/02/17/sanchez.sex.offender.cnn
http://www.americanchronicle.com/articles/viewArticle.asp?articleID=25104
http://www.kotv.com/news/local/story/?id=125676
http://news.cincinnati.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=2007704210439&template=printpicart
http://www.nytimes.com/2006/11/27/nyregion/27sex.html?hp&ex=1164690000&en=c2e9deb2fdc571ca&ei=5094&partner=homepage
and http://www.topix.net/content/kri/0715551882342386027925449435950999662136

The Orwellian double speak, that limiting where sex offenders may live is not punishment, has been struck down by Judge Patricia Joyce.

Do we want to keep pedophiles in prison for life? Quotes from ChildRight Worldwide - The Victim Child:

"Parker Rossman, an expert in homosexual paedophilia, estimates the number of active gay-paedophiles at more than half a million all over the world. Apparently one out of eight men sometimes gets sexually excited about young boys."

"According to a study by Briere and Runtz in the USA, of the 193 male students questioned, 21% have been sexually aroused by young children once or twice. 9% of the students said to have fantasies about sex with children sometimes, and 7% indicated to be interested in sex with children if there would be no risk of being arrested."

If you try to put all these folks in jail on top of all those imprisoned for other reasons, we're going to have a society composed of only two groups, prisoners and prison guards.

URLS http://www.childright.nl/Infotheque/sex001.htm
http://www.theledger.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070304/ZNYT02/703040502
http://www.heraldtribune.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070305/ZNYT02/703050597
http://www.newscientist.com/channel/opinion/mg19325924.200-sex-offenders-throwing-away-the-key.html
and http://mhamic.org/

Here is a plan to establish ghettos for sex offenders similar to those they had in pre-WWII Europe.
http://www.dispatch.com/news-story.php?story=dispatch/2007/03/15/20070315-C1-00.html
That is likely to be the end result of the increasing number and severity of laws restricting where convicted sex offenders are permitted to live, work or just be.

Soon they may not be able to have any kind of employment.
http://www.lacrossetribune.com/articles/2007/05/08/wi/00wi0508.prt

New Jersey may make it a crime for a sex offender to use the internet thus denying them another form of employment.
http://www.courierpostonline.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070522/NEWS01/70521021

There is also a proposal to require sex offenders to display a special green registration plate on their cars. Will they be made to wear an emblem on their clothing after that? Does any of this seem familiar?
http://www.jsonline.com/story/index.aspx?id=590303&format=print and http://www.winonadailynews.com/articles/2007/04/26/wi/2wis26.prt

There are over 390 thousand registered sex offenders in the US, 48 thousand in Texas. Do we really want to create a large group of very unhappy and desperate men?
http://www.swivel.com/data_columns/spreadsheet/2549530

Pedophile Crackdown

Children to be banned from going outside. Parents warned not to let children play together out of sight. Better they should all get obese, diabetic and hypertensive from inactivity.

URL http://www.latimes.com/news/opinion/commentary/la-oe-williamson29mar29,0,6859834.story?coll=la-home-commentary
http://www.spokesmanreview.com/tools/story_breakingnews_pf.asp?ID=9532
http://www.newstopic.net/articles/2006/12/27/news/49offenderscomeinall.txt
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_article_id=462091
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/06/17/AR2007061701179_pf.html
and http://deadbrain.co.uk/news/article_2006_08_01_0148.php


Cloaks and Veils

Because we seem to be terribly concerned that some men are sexually aroused by children, perhaps we should dress all the kids in black cloaks and veils until the age of eighteen.

URL http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/femail/article.html?in_article_id=439017&in_page_id=1879
http://www.ysnews.com/stories/2007/03/030107_aladdin.html
and http://www.redrival.com/steviejames/eandcnews.html


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 Post subject: Re: Denial of Justice?
PostPosted: Tue Jun 19, 2007 8:39 pm 
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so, what is the point you are trying to make? Are you for sex offenders living anywhere? By your children? What is an "ex-sex offender"???? is that a reality?? what is YOUR stand on this, since you put the poll out....?

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 Post subject: Re: Denial of Justice?
PostPosted: Tue Jun 19, 2007 10:17 pm 
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I have no idea what your point is either. I'm sure as heck not going to go searching through all those links on a wild goose chase.

I would be more inclined to look at some of the links if you stated your opinion on whatever point you're trying to make. This might get some discussion and dialog generated.

You posted this in the General Discussion topic section, but I don't see any discussion. But I do feel lots of anger and hostility in the short statements you made.

Your post is kind of creepy if you want to know the truth….

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 Post subject: Re: Denial of Justice?
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I agree with Ken when I read the post. It was very strange and alarming. It sounds like "Stevie" spends a little too much time researching the aspects of pro sex offender.

This is a great website for information regarding sex offenders in your back yard. It provides photos, the conviction, if they are compliant, etc. and is the Wisconsin Department of Corrections website.

http://offender.doc.state.wi.us/public//


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 Post subject: Re: Denial of Justice?
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No such thing as "EX" either are or are not.
Strange,creepy and alarming? that is an understatement. Not near me or mine please.


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 Post subject: Re: Denial of Justice?
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I agree - TOO creepy - "Stevie"

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Because we seem to be terribly concerned that some men are sexually aroused by children, perhaps we should dress all the kids in black cloaks and veils until the age of eighteen.
What?!

Although you've shown tremendous tenacity, perhaps you might want to start out a little more subtly and then progress from there..

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